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Quote:

I want to get a bit off-the-topic - when I was at middle school (final year) and we studied Lu
Xun's style, our teacher made a comment that many regarded Lu Xun as the greatest writer (or one
of the greatest writers) in Modern China but it was always easier to make criticism than to really
make things happen. I still remember it clearly after all these years. It was not really about the
writer, or the literature. Our Chinese teacher taught us more than that.

Hahahahahahahahahaha! Your teacher's word is right! You’re so lovely! I really like you and your
teacher! (Take it easy, I’m not a lesbian.) I want to tell you another thing else might be
long-winded and irrelevant too. According to some Premier Zhou Enlai’s staff’s memory, Zhou
used to mention that he wanted to write a book to tell others his mistakes in his whole life to
give some enlightenment to the next generation. Though he asked his staff to help him collect some
materials, none of them dared to do so. It is so pity that this great book can't make its show to
this world.

Cheers!



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roddy -

Looks like someone at SARFT finally got around to viewing the deleted scenes, poor Tang Wei is now
persona non-grata. SARFT must be a fantastic place to work, you just wait for something to be
popular, then jerk your knee and ban it.










studentyoung -



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poor Tang Wei is now persona non-grata.

Hehe. In my opinion, Miss Tang must be even more heated after this. You know what is called
“antagonistic psychology逆反心理”, right?



Quote:

SARFT must be a fantastic place to work, you just wait for something to be popular, then jerk your
knee and ban it.

No. Hehe. I think SARFT is helping Miss Tang get her name even more well-known. Hehe. Poor SARFT,
it is doing something so dramatically opposite （南辕北辙）.

Cheers!










dalaowai -

I still don't understand why she was banned, however Tony and his 肉球 weren't.










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I still don't understand why she was banned, however Tony and his 肉球 weren't.

That’s because Tony Leung is an HKer. If Tony were banned, it could cause even more vehement
discussions and uproars in not only mainland but also in Hong Kong. It is the last thing the
central government wants to see.

Cheers!










Lu -

Perhaps because a woman having sex in a hotel room with a married man is more shocking than a
married man having sex in a hotel room with a woman? Somewhere else I read that it also was
because her character was 'unpatriotic'. Or perhaps it is because Tony Leung is more famous and
established.
Poor Tang Wei. Sure she can go to Hong Kong or the US or wherever and make some more great movies,
but it would have been better if she had the choice to stay right at home if she wanted to.










Luobot -

The primary reason for the ban wasn’t the sex scenes, which were deleted, but because Tang
Wei’s character falls in love with the Japanese collaborator. Of course, Ang Lee’s intention
(as was Eileen Chang's) was not to glorifying a traitor, but to portray the complexity of life.

According to: ":



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the authorities in Beijing have since censured officials at SARFT for allowing the “film to be
released, charging that they had passed a film that was a “glorification of traitors and
insulting to patriots”. Several officials at SARFT are believed to have been fired or punished
in the crackdown.

Also, poor Tang Wei loses an advertising promotion deal “reported to be worth six million
yuan.” Had she know, she might have overcome her passion and discovered her inner patriotic duty
to murder the Japanese collaborator (played by Tony Leung) with her bear legs. Perhaps that would
have been better tolerated.










bhchao -

But why ban her now if the movie has already been showing in Chinese theatres for several months
now?

Allowing the movie to be shown and then banning the actress several months later seems fuzzy.
Might as well ban the movie on opening day.










Outofin -

I like her.

I heard the government bans films and directors, but never ban actors. So what happened?!

danwei just posted a video of Zhang Xuan.
The song in the classic movie by Zhang Xuan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbQEBrN84KI
The song in Lust Caution by Tang Wei: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=towfXZhn9Xo










bhchao -



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That’s because Tony Leung is an HKer. If Tony were banned, it could cause even more vehement
discussions and uproars in not only mainland but also in Hong Kong. It is the last thing the
central government wants to see.



Quote:

I still don't understand why she was banned, however Tony and his 肉球 weren't.



They could not ban Ang Lee either because banning the popular director would create a huge uproar
in Taiwan, One of the last things the central government want to see are anti-China sentiments
influencing the vote on March 22nd.

Lee is also an artistic advisor to the Olympics.

Tang Wei did not have leverage power unfortunately.












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Radial -

Well... I have a new version of the Windows error... I have been trying to run the program on a
Chinese version of Windows XP SP2... when I try to start the program... all I get is a black dos
window and then a error message saying that it is going to close.

I tried to do the workaround, but I cannot identify what is the option... and cannot find anything
indicating a US version of unicode. Any other suggestions about what to do?



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Skinkie -

It would be great if you posted the error message in the black box. If the sensitive bug in GTK+
is fixed I'll compile a new binary anyway.










Radial -

Managed to get the program up and running. Had to change the country and language setting in the
control panel.

I have one suggestion... maybe you can also provide for showing the character.










darcey -

I just found this, and wanted to say that I've downloaded it and it's working with minimal issue
on a PC running Windows Vista.










anchorman -

I've tried installing SGC on the latest Debian but the process tells me that I need libzip.so.1.
Libzip.so.1 isn't available in any of the Debian repositories. I could try and install a rpm of
it, but I've been told that could get nasty. If anyone has a solution... Thanks.












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gougou -

Neostar, I think you should have some flowers sent to skylee.



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neostar77 -

Not only send him flowers, but even find him now a "mandarin" speaking person to cool off his
"cantonese" translations from a so-called made-up language!










imron -



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Not only send him flowers,

her.










Quest -



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nah..don't think so..i got a few words sang exactly the way i wrote

Right "huu ha huu", except that's not Cantonese.










neostar77 -

right hehe...well "huuuuuuu ha huuuuuuu" was a really big clue for skylee..wasn't it?

anyways...i need 2 small favours..since im in love with this CD now "Yet another day with you"

can someone send me:

1. a link to the first song ..the same song but more instruments to it? i'd really appreciate
it..skylee sent me the last song..which was also nice of him/her!

2. a link to the coca-cola song of that album also thanks guys! ur the best cantonese
translators!!!!

hope to hear these audios soon! gonna go crazy over them!










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2. a link to the coca-cola song of that album

http://www.51wma.com/sort/2_745_252871.html



Quote:

1. a link to the first song ..the same song but more instruments to it?

This is a different version of the same song (not sure if it is the first song of the 1993 album)
-> http://ishare.iask.sina.com.cn/cgi-b...fileid=2146033 (click the green arrow button to
play/download)










neostar77 -

Thanks Skylee! for all your help!












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flameproof -

the "Hong Kong F visas" link goes to a write message page.

http://www. /nuwiki...g+Kong+F+visas.

Note: also a HK company can write invitation letters (we do that all the time). A good place I got
many visas: http://www.jta.biz/chinavisa/china_visa.htm

That does not apply to many, but you can also enter China with an APEC card with has a "CN" on the
back. APEC cards can be applied for in several APEC countries and last for 3 years, means 3 years
Visa free access to China.

It should also be noted the passports holders of Japan, Singapore, Brunei can enter China without
any visa.



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cdn_in_bj -

That's some good info there, you should add it to the wiki article.










roddy -

It goes to a blank page because nobody has written the article yet.










flameproof -

I added it!










cnembassy -

Thanks for the information, it is really useful info for Chinese visa.










Qiuyue -

If I have been in China for a year studying, my X-visa will soon expire, and I would like to
travel in Asia but need to get back to China for my flight back to Europe, would it be possible to
get a new F-visa (single-entry) when I am still in China???












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skylee -

For "what is this called", I would say "這個叫甚麽?" "這 / 那是甚麽?" would also do. But
it means "what is this / that?" IMHO there is not a great big difference between the two questions.



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roddy -

The translation requests forum is designed for four main types of question:

1) Tattoos. I think generally people on here will recommend you don't get a Chinese character
tattoo, and please do have a good long read of Hanzismatter to see why. There's a very real chance
of getting something incomprehensible, ugly, and permanent. But if you want to go ahead, read on.

2) Random objects. Bought a vase with a Chinese character on and curious about what it means?
Scribblings on the back on an old photo you think might be Chinese? Post away.

3) Chinese names - often for a tattoo, so see 1) as well. Could be either a traditional style two
or three character Chinese name, or a transliteration of an English name. Please have a read of
this and this to familiarize yourself with the issues involved in converting non-Chinese names
into Chinese characters.

4) Quick Chinese to English or English to Chinese translations. Please make an effort to work
these out yourself with a dictionary or online translation engine before posting, then ask us
about what you haven't been able to figure out.

Posting guidelines:
Give us as much information as possible - even if it's not directly relevant it makes for a more
interesting post and means you are more likely to get some help. "What does it say on this vase"
is ok, but a history of how this vase came to be in your family adds a bit more value.

If at all possible, make some efforts to find your own answers online, and let us know what you've
already done so we don't duplicate your work. Chinese versions of lots of English names can be
found online, etc.

If you are actually learning Chinese rather than just looking for a quick 'it means XXX' answer,
you should probably be posting elsewhere - have a look at the forums listing and see if you can
spot a better place.



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中文新手 -

I saw on the net where the documentary film "Nanking" was to make it's mainland China premier in
Beijing on 07-03. Has anyone heard or read what the typical viewer's reaction was? Thanks.



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ChineseSpeaker -

this news

xwcb.eastday.com/c/20070704/u1a323870.html

says, the audience felt shocked and couldn't help crying










love&poison -

Grand Cinema, 15:10










roddy -

Merging the two (although I'm not sure we need posts just to tell people a film is on at the
cinema, I'd hope most people could find that out for themselves.)












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HashiriKata -

She was really bewitching in "The Mask"
(10 years ago)



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againstwind -

Ah, I see the characters are 为人民服务.

Is 为人民服务 a political slogan?

Pardon me, why not to regard it as a slogan on commonweal or volunteer?










JimmySeal -

Yes, it is one of Mao's most famous slogans:

http://no-sword.jp/blog/2005/03/how-...tionaries.html

For more on Cameron Diaz's "volunteer" activities:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=trippin










muyongshi -

Yah it was a political slogan but sure sounds like the motto of most governments (whether or not
they actually believe it and try to follow it).










HashiriKata -



Quote:

Pardon me, why not to regard it as a slogan on commonweal or volunteer?

If you do so and not make a fuss, you'd miss out the chance to cash in on the two world-famous
names: Cameron Diaz and Mao! That wouldn't be "sensible business sense" enough, againstwind










muyongshi -

For once I wish I couldn't "follow the money".










Huang Jialuo -

Well, I'm 5 days late to discuss the topic, haha. I live and study in Peru!
Frankly, I don't think the Star w/slogan bag should have been taken so strongly. I mean, you just
need to tell her: "don't wear it", period. My guess is a few people might have been reminded of
this hurtful scenario, and instead of confronting her about it, they passed the word, the media
found out and acted upon it: most probably to incite people to find more about Peru, to bring the
focus to this nation (I guess it really did.. :P).
I can assure you however that though there is a large Chinese population here in Peru (much more
cantonese than mandarin speakers), they all live in the coast of Peru, which is the left side of
the country and not in Cuzco (almost the center of the country) where Cameron Diaz was seen. So,
if they were hurt, it was not because of the slogan, but because of the red-star (and possibly the
green color resembling the military too). I do not really remember those times of cruelty as I
live in the capital, but it was a time in which a LOT of violence took place (approx 69300 dead).
The terrorist group AND the military were both responsible for the massacre led by the
unjustifiable hatred for the farming indigenous people.
It is quite curious, because I just had my final exam of Peruvian History yesterday.
I hope I don't fail though... :P










trien27 -

I doubt people in Peru really knows Chinese. It's probably of Mao's picture. I've seen this bag
off line. It's not offensive [if you know all 5 Chinese characters written on it in running
Traditional script: wei ren min fu wu? "To serve the people" ]










AJBryant -



Quote:

I think the "to serve people" slogan is generally harmless.

Well, so are phrases like "Work makes [you] free," but the cultural baggage of the quotation may
be severely problematic. (For context: Google "arbeit macht frei.")

Tony












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weilian -

It first depends on your Chinese skills. They really are quite unyielding when it comes to
employing he correct tones in class, which is really useful. 3+3 tone always gets me as does 一
＋ (1, 2, 3)

If your level is even passable, they'll customize lessons for you. For example, I've studied there
for the last four months, during which time I've finished the first three books of NPRC and the
first two books in the Boya Chinese series. I've got a job for the Olympics which requires me to
work with taxi drivers around Beijing and so in July my teachers are preparing a few days of class
solely devoted to those words, listening and speaking only since I won't be writing to the drivers.

Like I said before the teachers really great too, because I'll finish class but stick around and
talk with them, practice up. They're invested in you learning Chinese, which I think doesn't
always hold true with some other language programs.



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Weilian,

The teachers had better be darned good given the prices one pays for them and their status as
ex-IUP types.

The tone thing is great, its something I definitely need to work on myself.










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ex-IUP, ex-Middlebury too.












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panny -

I'm having plans to teach in China this year, as I dont understand mandarin I'm hoping to learn it
up by living there.
Does anyone have any recommendations on which agency/website I should sign up with?? - I know
there's gaplife, worldwidelink

It will be my first time in China does anyone have any advices? Or anyone planning have interests
in going this year too.

Thanks x



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liuzhou -

Please tell me you're not planning to teach English!










panny -

Any advice Lihuzhou?










magores -

Okay, I'll take a stab at answering the question....

-As far as not knowing Chinese... Don't worry about that.

-Learning Chinese while here ... Have it written into your contract that classes/lessons are
provided.

-I can't recommend any agencies, because I didn't go that route before I came here. I started
looking around here, and at Dave's ESL Cafe. I looked, I read, I asked a few specific questions,
and then I responded to a couple of ads I saw somewhere.

--
Your mileage may vary ... I believe I "lucked into" a very good situation. You may have the same
luck your first try. You may not. Follow your instincts.
--

My main advice would be to do some research. People will tell you, often before you ask, which
schools are good, or bad. What locations are good, or bad. Etc.

Search is your friend.










liuzhou -

I have no wish to sound negative or sarcastic, but your first post is full of mistakes in basic
English - mistakes which Chinese students would spot instantly.

Hence my question.










panny -

Thanks Magores, will keep your advice in mind










panny -

My mistake for not proof-reading!, but I don't think it will determine my overall level of english










kdavid -

Panny: If you're serious about learning while teaching you'll need a good Mandarin-only
environment (i.e. not Beijing, Shanghai or another big city where many people speak English), a
school that provides lessons as well as resources for independent learning, and a good long-term
plan. I highly recommend that you check out the following link. I am personally involved with this
program and believe it to be something that may suit what you are interested in doing.

www.willexcel.com/tesol/main.htm










terryswift -

this looks like a terrible deal to me. 22 hours of teaching for a paltry 4000rmb? good luck trying
to learn mandarin with that kind of workload! also, unless this is a different kdavid, it looks
like the 'recommender' is involved with this company.










imron -

Outside of big cities, that's not such a bad deal, and if you were working for a government school
instead of a private company, you'd be hard pressed to earn much higher than that. Also keep in
mind that the cost of living in much lower outside of big cities, so you might end up saving more
than what you would in say Beijing or Shanghai, even though you have a lower salary.












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magores -

No offense intended but....

Please have someone proofread the English on your site.

If you are marketing to English speakers that want to learn Chinese, then your presentation needs
to be in (more or less) proper English.

I'm relatively forgiving about mistakes in spelling, grammar, capitalization, and punctuation. The
average person in the US that is considering learning Chinese is less so.

A quick proofread by a native English speaker will make your site much more marketable, and
therefore, potentially, more profitable.


Just a suggestion.



/Please don't correct my grammar, punctuation, etc. I wasn't suggesting myself as the answer. I
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